Anna Elisabeth Webers (1820-1906)

Chart | Passenger | Marriage | Children | Death| Census

Immigrant.
I have no information about her ancestors.

√ wife of William Spies

Facts (with source information): Narrative Report

What's so great about these records?
The two marriage records support the idea that church records should always be studied, even if one has already seen a civil record. In this case the church record says that the bride was Elisabeth, daughter of John Wendel and Elisabeth Lipker. The civil record is in error. It says the bride’s surname was Lipker. That was her mother’s surname. Someone misread the church record.

So, if the church record says her name was Wendel, why do I say it was Webers? There are four records for her children in which she is called Elisabeth Webers/Weber/Wever. At least we know it wasn’t Wendel or Lipker! Have a look at those records. What name would you give her in the family history?

Chart:

1854 Passenger Record

November 22, 1854, the ship Ibers arrives at New Orleans.
half way down the lower section

Wilhelm Spies and Elisabeth Webers are numbers 107 and 108.

1854 Marriage Record

St. Mary of Victories, St. Louis, Missouri
lower right side.

How’s your Latin? Just remember the form of a Catholic marriage record: Date, Groom’s name, Names of Groom’s parents. Then the word “et,” which means “and.” Bride’s name, Names of Bride’s parents. Names of the priest and of the witnesses are below the paragraph.

Here’s my transcription and translation of this record. 1854 marriage record


1854 Civil Marriage Record

St. Louis, Missouri
lower right side, second last entry

This record has a pretty bad error, but fortunately we have the church record too. This was copied by a clerk from the church record (or dictated to a clerk by the priest). It says that the bride’s name was Elisabeth Lipker. If you look at the church record and translate it, you will see that Elizabeth Lipker was the bride’s mother.

Primary Records of her children:

The baptism records are from St. Ferdinand, the marriage record is from Sacred Heart. Both parishes are in Florissant, Missouri.

(The mother and all three daughters are called “Anna Maria Elizabeth” in church records. Very confusing. But if you look at the census records, you see that the daughter born in 1856 is called Anna. The daughter born in 1862 is called Mary. The daughter born in 1865 is called Elizabeth.)

1861 baptism, John Bernard Spies (mother is Elizabeth Wever) (lower left)

1862 baptism, Mary Spies (mother is Elisabeth Webers) (upper left, 2nd entry)

1865 baptism, Elizabeth Spies (mother is Elizabeth Weber) (lower left corner)

1872 marriage, Anna Spies (mother is Elisabeth Webers) (right side, 2nd entry)

1907 Burial

Sacred Heart, Florissant, Missouri
upper left corner

This record says she was the widow of Gulielmi (William) Spies, who is dead. The little cross written before his name says he is dead. She received the last sacraments, died December 31st, and was buried the second of January, 1907.

Census:

The 1890 census was lost in a fire.
I cannot find her in a 1900 census record.

1860 Census

lines 27-29

Their name is Peace, and they live in St. Ferdinand Township, St. Louis County.

1870 Census

lines 2-7

The name is Spies, still live in St. Ferdinand Township. Now have four children.

1880 Census

lines 3-8

The name is Speis. Three of their children and one grandchild are in the household. Still living in St. Ferdinand.