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Helena Grove (1868-1952)

Chart | Marriage | Death| Census

Daughter of Frank Christoph Grove and Gertrude Traumann √
Wife of Joseph Preis √

Facts (with source information): Narrative Report

What's so great about these records?
These records are not as complete and correct as we would like. However, from the point of view of a family historian, we have proof of her relationship with her parents and of her relationship with her husband. The marriage record from St. Nicholas is the most important document we have found.


Chart

Primary Records:

I do so wish I could find her baptism record, but so far have failed. I found baptism records for her four younger brothers at St. Nicholas. But there is no record there for Helena.

The marriage record from St. Nicholas is proof of her relationship with her parents as well as her relationship with her husband.

1887 Marriage License

St. Louis, Missouri. left side, middle
FHL film 007513830, image 388

1887 Marriage

St. Nicholas, St. Louis, Missouri
upper right corner
FHL film 007856366, image ?

This record is a treasure to genealogists. It names their parents. Of course, it is written in Latin, so you have to figure out what the names would be in German or English.


1952 Death Certificate

The informant is her son Fred Preis.


Census Records

The 1890 census was lost in a fire. 1940 is the most recent census that is public.

Now you will see why the census is only a secondary source. Her name was Helena. She was called Lena. She was born in Missouri, not in Hanover. My guess is that the family spoke German and the census taker did not in 1870 and in 1880.

1870 Census

lines 9-11
Her name is Madeline Groever

1880 Census

lines 44-49
Her name is Halana Grofe

1900 Census

lines 40-45
Her name is Lina Preis

1910 Census

lines 5-11
Her name is Helena Preis

1920 Census

lines 40-44
Her name is Helen Preis

1930 Census

lines 47-48
Her name is Helen Preis

1940 Census

lines 39-40
Her name is Helen Price

Cemetery Plot

Family plot in Calvary Cemetery